Holes - There are many ironic sayings and phrases that appear in the book. What is a saying or phrase you find that is “Ironic?” Why do you think it is ironic?


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Comment by js22
November 11, 2008 9:34 am

I think a saying that is ironic is “you can’t have your cake and eat it too”. I think that is soooooo weird. It does not make sence. Well if i were to guess , I think it means good things don’t always happen , sometime bad things in life happen

 
Comment by af7
November 11, 2008 11:52 am

A saying that I think is “ironic”is when Mr. Sir says “This isn’t girl scouts anymore” because most camp counselors don’t say mean things like that a lot. :mrgreen:

Comment by ab1
November 11, 2008 10:59 pm

I think that Mr. Sir is just trying to make the guys frustrated, by saying that, so that they will work harder, and put their anger (if there is any) into their digging. However, I do agree with af7, that camp counslers don’t say things like that. But we are talking about Camp Green Lake here, not any other nice camp! :wink:

 
 
Comment by melissa.needles
November 12, 2008 9:15 am

When I hear a piece of figurative language I often wonder in what ways could I use that in a piece of writing. I also agree with the statements made about the counselors at Camp Green Lake. Those comments were inappropriate and an adult should not make statements like that to children. Kids should think about ways that they could respond to an adult when they are faced in those “ironic” situations. http://blogs.sbschools.org/needles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

Comment by ab1
November 12, 2008 10:32 pm

I think that the kids at Camp Green Lake would be too frightened to speak up to the adults, if they said those “ironic” things. I guess they would be afraid that if they talked back to Mr. Sir or someone, they would get in trouble, and would maybe have to dig another hole, or maybe they wouldn’t get any water.
However, if a situation like that actually happened, (maybe at our school) the student should tell their parents, because one, it is rude for a teacher or paraprofessional to talk like that to a little kid, and two, that is not really the correct way to teach a child. It would not be something to hide away from a parent, or maybe even a teacher. :grin:

 
 
Comment by mc5
November 17, 2008 8:58 pm

I think the ironic saying “this isn’t girl scout camp” really means that your not here to have fun you are here to dig holes an build character. I think Mr. Sir is realy hard on the kids. Especaily after the Warden strikes him with rattlesnake venom and he didn’t give Stanley water. Stanley could have passed out. Anyway, I am just glad that I am not at Camp Green Lake

 
Comment by ab1
November 17, 2008 10:38 pm

I argree with mc5. Mr. Sir puts wayyyyyyyyyyyy too much pressure on the boys at Camp Green Lake. I guess he was still crabby before he got struck with the rattlesnake venom, because he quit smoking, but I do think he was a LOT more stricter (at least around Group D) after the Warden made the mark on his face. I personally think it was RUDE of Mr.Sir to not give Stanley any water! Like mc5 said, Stanley could have passed out! It was not fair of Mr. Sir to do that, especially because he was the one who carried out the complaint to the Warden. Mr.Sir should have just let that go! :wink:

 
Comment by mo16
November 24, 2008 5:06 pm

I think that an ironic saying is ” It will cost you an arm and a leg.” That’s just plain weird. I mean, why would someone come up with a really gross ironic saying? I agree with ab1. Mr. Sir really does put a lot of pressure on the boys. I mean come on! They know why they came to camp green lake, why does he have to keep reminding them why they came there. I think that they want to forget about it. Stanley wasn’t even supposed to end up there in the first place! :mad:

 
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